Mar 03, 2008, 06:44 PM // 18:44
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#41
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Brighton, England
Guild: Ice Cold Elements [ICE]
Profession: Mo/
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To be honest, cerb kinda said everything i would have...
Tauracis, its good that you're a feminist and all, but I kinda think you take it too far, papi was joking (I'm guessing)... you get obscenely sexist/racist/etc jokes on forums all the time, get used to it. :P
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Mar 03, 2008, 07:03 PM // 19:03
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#42
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Feb 2007
Guild: Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] | Ex-Officer [TAM]
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
Yes, I'd do it.
I would then use some of that immense sum of cash to hire the very best hitmen to take him out and recover the child.
Problem solved.
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Good idea
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Mar 03, 2008, 07:28 PM // 19:28
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#43
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God of Spammers
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: in the middle of a burning cornfield...
Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)
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Originally Posted by Taurucis
Because it's usually the immature teenage males who don't know anything about childbirth and parenting.
Let's say this guy is a slave trader, or some child porn ring leader. Would you really want to sell your baby to him? The fact that you view human life as worthless speaks volumes about your maturity.
Lesbian Eskimos?
You can't remove your guilt with money. Anyone with a conscience would not sell their own child for money.
You can buy and sell the body, but you can't buy or sell the soul.
Please go die. Thank you.
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(Couldn't help myself)
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Mar 03, 2008, 07:32 PM // 19:32
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#44
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Sept-Iles, QC, Canada
Guild: Les Tricératops Sont Nos [Amis]
Profession: Mo/
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Originally Posted by Taurucis
Because it's usually the immature teenage males who don't know anything about childbirth and parenting.
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Most mature teenage males don't give a damn either. I wasn't worried about how to eventually raise my kids when I was 13. For the record, I'm turning 20 soon and I still don't give a damn, not because I am immature, but rather because my goal in life is not "to have children".
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Originally Posted by Taurucis
Let's say this guy is a slave trader, or some child porn ring leader. Would you really want to sell your baby to him? The fact that you view human life as worthless speaks volumes about your maturity.
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Does "RATIONALITY" ring a bell in your head? You're talking about morality, and for the sake of god if you cannot distinguish both, stop thinking and stop worrying about anything beyond your kitchen and children. About the slave trader, the OP does not say anything about such thing, and he probably wouldn't offer 3 trillion $ to rape/torture/kill your baby, or at least he wouldn't tell you about it.
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Originally Posted by Taurucis
Lesbian Eskimos?
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GIRL! OMGHI2U ASL? PICS?
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Originally Posted by Taurucis
You can't remove your guilt with money. Anyone with a conscience would not sell their own child for money.
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Anyone SHARING YOUR OPINION would not sell their own child for money.
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Originally Posted by Taurucis
You can buy and sell the body, but you can't buy or sell the soul.
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What a beautiful saying. Perhaps I should append it to my MSN display name.
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Originally Posted by Taurucis
Please go die. Thank you.
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I'm hungry.
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Mar 03, 2008, 07:38 PM // 19:38
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#45
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: KaoS League
Profession: E/
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Originally Posted by Taurucis
I'd bet that everyone who said that they would sell their child, is an immature teenage male - one who thinks that women are nothing more than objects to serve and please them. I wish all of you good luck in getting girlfriends who don't dump you after a day.
My answer stands as "No, a human life can't be bought or sold."
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I agree.
Or better yet, everyone that has answered yes is a kid/person that hasn't had any children of their own. There is no amount of money I would take for my child. Human life means way more than that. Or at least it is supposed to be. I fell in love with my child the second I found out my wife was pregnant. No, Never, not gonna happen.
Last edited by EmptySkull; Mar 03, 2008 at 07:42 PM // 19:42..
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Mar 03, 2008, 07:39 PM // 19:39
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#46
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Banned
Join Date: Feb 2006
Guild: Kings Army of Surmia [KAOS]
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YEs i would do it WITHOUT A HESITATION
why? because its 3 TRILLION DOLLARS and the fact that this new child born you don't even know yet....because it was just born i haven't grown attached to it
It might be related to you more because its YOUR baby but every other human being is related to you in some form, we're all the same...some just look and share more of the same dna
3 trillion dollars you could do good things with or bad things...
YES I WOULD DO IT
Last edited by Solange; Mar 03, 2008 at 07:41 PM // 19:41..
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Mar 03, 2008, 07:55 PM // 19:55
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#47
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Home...
Guild: Vier Reiter [Vier]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EmptySkull
I agree.
Or better yet, everyone that has answered yes is a kid/person that hasn't had any children of their own. There is no amount of money I would take for my child. Human life means way more than that. Or at least it is supposed to be. I fell in love with my child the second I found out my wife was pregnant. No, Never, not gonna happen.
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QFT.
Anyone seeing a connection here...the ppl that DO have kids say so way, while those that don't and therefore don't understand what a life changing thing it is say hell yes. Hmmmmmm....
If you don't have one, maybe you just can't understand honestly loving someone so much that NO amount of money could ever be worth more than that tiny life.
This is OT & A, but for some ppl this is obviously an emotional issue.
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Mar 03, 2008, 08:02 PM // 20:02
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#48
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La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakti
If you don't have one, maybe you just can't understand honestly loving someone so much that NO amount of money could ever be worth more than that tiny life.
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Yet there have been millions of babies given away for free in a process we call adoption.
Hmmmm...
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Mar 03, 2008, 08:13 PM // 20:13
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#49
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: KaoS League
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Faer
Yet there have been millions of babies given away for free in a process we call adoption.
Hmmmm...
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Very true. You said it best "for free". But this thread isn't about adoption. Where a person gives up thier child because they would have a better life with the new family. One that the biologic parent couldn't provide. There is nothing insidious behind that. But just selling a baby for money. That is nothing like adoption. It may be hard for some to understand, but it is the "spirit" behind the action is what makes it one way or the other on the moral compass. There has to be lines in the sand somewhere.
I do believe this. And it may not be this way in every case. But most people here, when they do have children, opinions will change.
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Mar 03, 2008, 08:14 PM // 20:14
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#50
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Wakefield, West Yorkshire, Uk, Nr Earth
Guild: Alternate Evil Gamers [aeg]
Profession: N/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EmptySkull
I agree.
Or better yet, everyone that has answered yes is a kid/person that hasn't had any children of their own. There is no amount of money I would take for my child. Human life means way more than that. Or at least it is supposed to be. I fell in love with my child the second I found out my wife was pregnant. No, Never, not gonna happen.
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I completely agree.
And yes there does seem to be a trend among the people with no children and the younger posters etc, although i would not have considered it even when i didnt have a daughter, But thats bacause i am a nice guy
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Mar 03, 2008, 08:23 PM // 20:23
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#51
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La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EmptySkull
Very true. You said it best "for free". But this thread isn't about adoption. Where a person gives up thier child because they would have a better life with the new family. One that the biologic parent couldn't provide. There is nothing insidious behind that. But just selling a baby for money. That is nothing like adoption. It may be hard for some to understand, but it is the "spirit" behind the action is what makes it one way or the other on the moral compass. There has to be lines in the sand somewhere.
I do believe this. And it may not be this way in every case. But most people here, when they do have children, opinions will change.
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And now we're talking with reason and logic, and not just with "you feel this way so obviously you don't understand it at all and shouldn't talk about it" types of statements. Thanks. That's what I wanted to draw out of people.
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Originally Posted by T1Cybernetic
But thats bacause i am a nice guy
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No, it's because you are a wimp. <3
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Mar 03, 2008, 08:25 PM // 20:25
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#52
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: America. How about you, commie?
Guild: Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]
Profession: R/Mo
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Now I honestly do not wish to touch too deeply on this subject as it is a question of morality, but instead I will contribute with a silly fun filled forum-friendly response.
If it's a girl, yes. Maybe only if I can sell her at the age when she's too young to know and hold a grudge against me.
UNLESS you're selling the baby to some evil scientific research facility, then no. A human life is too valuable for THAT.
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Mar 03, 2008, 08:27 PM // 20:27
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#53
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Maryland
Guild: The Mirror Of Reason [SNOW]
Profession: E/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Taurucis
I'd bet that everyone who said that they would sell their child, is an immature teenage male - one who thinks that women are nothing more than objects to serve and please them. I wish all of you good luck in getting girlfriends who don't dump you after a day.
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I wish you good luck in NOT making everyone throw up from your sweeping generalizations. And chill out, this thread is just meant for some interesting discussion. And no, I would not sell my child.
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Mar 03, 2008, 08:48 PM // 20:48
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#54
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Raged Out
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Definetly not, dumb question OP.
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Mar 03, 2008, 08:54 PM // 20:54
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#55
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Desert Nomad
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One detail that I kind of wish was added in the question is whether the person buying the baby is going to take care of him/her and give him/her a good life. That would promote some better discussion IMO.
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Mar 03, 2008, 09:00 PM // 21:00
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#56
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Town Dweller
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: on the LOST island
Guild: [SMS]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cerb
But who would cook if something happened to your wife?
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with that kind of money im sure id be able to pay someone to cook for me
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taurucis
Please go die. Thank you.
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INTERNET IS SERIOUZ BUIZNESS...I AM LIEK TEH MOSTEST MATURE FORUM GOER EVER ROFLROFLOLOLOL!!!!ONE
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Mar 03, 2008, 10:06 PM // 22:06
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#57
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Taurucis
You can buy and sell the body, but you can't buy or sell the soul.
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Yeah. Because you can't buy or sell something that doesn't exist.
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Mar 03, 2008, 10:16 PM // 22:16
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#58
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: The edge of reason
Guild: I don't play any more.
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
Yeah. Because you can't buy or sell something that doesn't exist.
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If it doesn't exist, what makes everyone's personalities unique? Why is it that you will never find two people who are perfectly identical, mentally and physically? We're not just bunches of organic matter, there's something more to us. Without a soul, we would just be shells. Empty shells.
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Originally Posted by cerb
Most mature teenage males don't give a damn either. I wasn't worried about how to eventually raise my kids when I was 13. For the record, I'm turning 20 soon and I still don't give a damn, not because I am immature, but rather because my goal in life is not "to have children".
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Almost 20 isn't yet mature. Especially not for the male gender. There isn't much teenage males care about... except for themselves.
Quote:
Originally Posted by cerb
Does "RATIONALITY" ring a bell in your head? You're talking about morality, and for the sake of god if you cannot distinguish both, stop thinking and stop worrying about anything beyond your kitchen and children. About the slave trader, the OP does not say anything about such thing, and he probably wouldn't offer 3 trillion $ to rape/torture/kill your baby, or at least he wouldn't tell you about it.
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Would you feel comfortable knowing that you had given your own child into slavery, or death? You have absolutely no morality. I don't care if you think you're the most rational person in the world, you're still a woman-hating, child hating monster.
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Originally Posted by cerb
GIRL! OMGHI2U ASL? PICS?
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Yup, definately not mature yet...
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Originally Posted by cerb
Anyone SHARING YOUR OPINION would not sell their own child for money.
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Because they're obviously more mature, and know the value of a human life.
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Originally Posted by cerb
What a beautiful saying. Perhaps I should append it to my MSN display name.
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And it's true.
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Originally Posted by cerb
I'm hungry.
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That's nice.
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Originally Posted by I pwnd U
(Couldn't help myself)
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I know you enjoy the picture. I suggest you pack your bags and head straight for Saudi Arabia, where people who share your hatred for women abound. You'll fit right in.
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Mar 03, 2008, 10:20 PM // 22:20
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#59
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Taurucis
If it doesn't exist, what makes everyone's personalities unique? Why is it that you will never find two people who are perfectly identical, mentally and physically? We're not just bunches of organic matter, there's something more to us. Without a soul, we would just be shells. Empty shells.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain
Yeah.
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Mar 03, 2008, 10:22 PM // 22:22
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#60
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Soviet Jersey
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Hell yeah, I would sell my baby. There are enough to go around in the world.
$3,000,000,000,000 > Baby
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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
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Link has been Fix'd.
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